September 9, 2008
Fox News Attacks ‘Lesbian Air America Host’ (Brent Budowsky)
Even by the low standards of the Republican News Network, this morning's attack on Rachel Maddow, on the Fox News network, as a "lesbian Air America host" was a despicable new low. Those words, an open appeal to bigotry and hate, said by an alleged media analyst named Tim Graham, were met with laughter and chortles by the Fox News team on air. This is sick and despicable stuff, even for Fox News.
Here is a message to Barack Obama: You need to spend more time fighting back against the lies and smears of a Swift Boat campaign more ugly than the campaign against John Kerry, and less time having sweet-talk meetings with Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes followed by professorial discourse with Bill O'Reilly. This is war, Barack, and you had better fight back.
The sickness and dementia of a purported news network airing with smug laughs and happy chortles a naked appeal to hatred and bigotry in this attack on "a lesbian Air America host" is a low that even a Republican cable organization like Fox should never stoop to.
Let’s see if the "Fox Democrats," such as Lanny Davis, Howard Wolfson and Susan Estrich, have the strength of principle to stand against this. One of them recently wrote of how proud he was that both parties nominated four great candidates. Is this Fox Democrat proud they nominated Sarah Palin? Is this a Democrat, a real Democrat? A Democrat proud that Republicans nominated Sarah Palin? Huh?
Let’s see if Democrats can summon the steel and will and fight to answer this campaign of personal destruction and let’s see if Barack Obama can toughen up his game, and play NFL Super Bowl football.
In the meantime, Fox News should be ashamed and embarrassed that they allow their shows to be used to attack "a lesbian Air America host.”
Sick is sick. Despicable is despicable. And this is sick and despicable. And each and every Republican and Fox News Democrat should say it.
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Surely you want facts in your news? I think everybody already guessed she was a lesbian anyway, and I doubt if she has much of an audience to worry about, carrying on in the best tradition of Olbermann. I didn't see you object when Sarah Palin was alluded to as "trailer park trash" on This Week.
Comment by Robert Rosencrans — September 9, 2008 @ 9:28 am
Hi Brent
Objectivity. Objectivity. Objectivty.
I actually saw red last week when Obama went on O'Reilly's show the evening of McCain's most important night thus far. (I said to myself, Obama lacks decorum, and respect for the entire political process.)Coming from another perspective I was also exaspirated (but not surprised)with O'Reilly for succumbing to Obama for the sake of ratings and is weeny little ego. Then I drew from the objective side of my brain and chalked it all up to strategy.
MSNBC is practicing the art of "strategy" and doing so brilliantly by creating the Meadow's show to unify a female audience, a libral mal/female audience, a curious audience, a homosexual male and homosexual felmale audience on behalf of supporting Sen Obama. Meadows is bright and an excellent speaker.
This morning I did hear Fox referring to the new show. I have not heard Fox's slight on this, but if you perceived one was said, be objective enough that the disparaging remark was purely out of exaspiration not phobia. They probably fell in the ratings last night.
Are you implying Fox is insensitive to Lesbians? They have many staffers and a number of anchors that may differ.
Also, Brent. Don't confuse Obama by referring to the "election" as the "war".
: )
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 9, 2008 @ 9:52 am
C'mon kids, what Fox did was sick stuff, and
even you guys should say it. Should I write
about certain very prominent Republicans who
are gay? You'd be surprised who some of them
are. Very high level today, and some who
were very high level during the Reagan years.
Names everyone would know. One who was in
fact nominated at a Republican convention for
one of the two highest offices in the land.
I could name them, but I wont, because even
in this sick business one has to have a little
integrity and class. I lose all respect for
Republicans whose partisanship is so sick and
total they cant even criticize Fox did this
morning. That is pathetic.
Comment by Brent — September 9, 2008 @ 10:36 am
Well Fox news is at it again. They will stoop to the lowest level to make news. Fox news has people working for them like Hannity who is the most negative person ever on TV and should not be allowed to fill the public with his nasty comments. Fox news will do anything to turn a head. Bill O'Reilly is a joke. Why people listen to Fox news is beyond me. Maddow is refreshing and has a positive outlook as well. As long as she stays this way she will be very popular and many will be anxious to listen to her. Whether she is gay or not has nothing to do with her ability to draw interest from her listeners. jojo
Comment by joyce jones — September 9, 2008 @ 10:50 am
Great post Brent. You know, Obama won the nomination by staying on the 'high road,' and I doubt if he's going to get off of it now. He's relying on people to use their brains, unlike the republicans who are expecting people to believe lies. Obama even said if you're happy with the way things are, then you should vote for McCain. Fox news are a bunch of racist, bigoted, hypocrits, and the world knows it. Isn't is ironic that everything they are against that they are now for? Teenage pregnancy and unwed mothers were their banner of attack on 'the poor' people. The Republicans are just a bunch of sick people who sit around getting frustrated with themselves but taking it out on everybody else. Rachael is a winner. Republicans don't like winners. Now you're going to see women who really fight for women's issues come to the forefront. Racheal represents everything that men hate about women. Independence, Brillance, ans standing up for her Sexuality. Her choices are her own and she won't back down from anybody who wants to tackel her on issues. Palin on the other hand is everything a man loves. Speak when spoken to, and only say what you are told. Obama/Biden/Maddow/MSNBC 08
Comment by Yvonne — September 9, 2008 @ 10:58 am
Brent, I agree with you, but this is what Fox is famous for. They are just getting worse and worse. And as for the Republican gays? now you know who runs the MSM. The Republicans are hypocrites, plain and simple.
Comment by Yvonne — September 9, 2008 @ 11:06 am
Brent, #3
Unless I missed something, I don't remember Sen. Larry Craig being nominated for VP position in the last 30 years. Who else could it be? Why go this route?
Don't you have anything good to say about Sen. Obama? Even one good thing, even if you had to pretend you are proud of your nominee? Even if you had to fake it, say one good thing about how you feel Obama's tax increases in a slow economy would stimulate its growth?
Comment by Misha — September 9, 2008 @ 11:11 am
Misha, I know. Why not talk about why the economy, no, the country is in the shape that it is in? Republicans want to 'turn the page' on their record of failure, only they are not turning the page on the people who made the failures
Comment by Yvonne — September 9, 2008 @ 11:38 am
The saddest thing about Fox news is the venom that comes out of their mouths is picked up by their children and the hate cycle continues. Hannity's America would definitely be a place where there would be no minorities, ever. Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians would be part of his 'final solution.'
Comment by Yvonne — September 9, 2008 @ 11:42 am
Gee, Misha. Larry Craig claims he's not gay. I take it I am to assume you have some personal knowledge otherwise?
I like Fox News. It's kinda like watching the Twilight Zone only dumber.
I, unlike my republican friends, don't assume most americans are lemmings unable to discern the truth.
Although the things you guys post on this and other bloggs does give me pause.
Comment by pghremodeler — September 9, 2008 @ 11:49 am
Yea, coming from a network that promotes the party of Grand ole Perverts.
Comment by pam,s.c. — September 9, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
As long as she's not a Polish lesbian, because I heard they actually prefer men.
Comment by Misha — September 9, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
What's new? Fox News caters to the bigots, it's their meat n potatoes. And Robert Rosencrans, Palin is trailer trash and a nutcase on top of that.
And the claim that McCain/Palin is the change ticket is even nuttier. But don't worry, the morans outnumber folks with brains in this country. You'll win.
Comment by KittyKatMan — September 9, 2008 @ 12:34 pm
Brent: What are you saying? Are you implying it's okay for homodemocratus to excel but somehow it's an embarassement for homorepublicanus to exist? I don't care and I don't know anyone who does care about someones sexual orientation. Please, this is trash.
Comment by Robert Rosencrans — September 9, 2008 @ 12:34 pm
Brent,
I'm not really a kid, I am of the generation that many in my group are not progressive thinkers and openminded as I.
I think you may forget how relentless the MSNBC Lefties were with outted politicians, as equal opportunists, let's not forget they recently called Hillary Clinton a PIMP for allowing her daughter to campaign. The leftie comics were also pretty abrasive while abusing outted celebs and politicians in the name of humor.
It is a petty conversation anyway.
We have kids in war right now.
Back to the real issues.
Since I have gone over to the McCain's side I see many holes in the Democratic world view.
McCain will lead us forward, not backward.
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 9, 2008 @ 12:36 pm
The same network that has Shepard Smith as an anchor has the nerve to make comments about the sexual orientation of a host on another network? Rachel Maddow has the dignity and honesty to tell the truth about who she is… if only the same thing were true for all of the self-hating right wing closet cases who populate Fox News and the the RNC
Comment by terje — September 9, 2008 @ 12:43 pm
JFK, McCain has to first know HOW to go forward. America looks different than it did in 1950. As for you going to McCain's side, please, stay there.
Comment by Yvonne — September 9, 2008 @ 12:47 pm
I guess it's Okay for Fox news to attack women. Where's the outrage?
Comment by Yvonne — September 9, 2008 @ 12:49 pm
I see McCain is out there again today lying
about Pork Palin being against earmarks! He
wont tell you that when he put out his famous
list of wasteful earmarks, under his own name
on his own stationary, there were Pork Palin
projects mentioned by name on his list. My
point about McCain is, this ain't no straight
talk, and my point about Barack is, he should
call McCain on this….big time. Stay tuned.
Comment by Brent — September 9, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
Ok, I know republicans are seldom capable of reasoning through any argument longer than "Drill here, drill now," so I'll make this as simple as possible.
You have been lied to about Obama's tax policy. (Or you simply choose to lie about it, but let's give you the benefit of the doubt.)
In fact Obama's policy will *lower* your taxes unless you make more than $250,000 a year.
But this country *does* need to raise taxes because the Republicans have already SPENT the money we need to raise taxes to pay for.
You see, when you're a grown up, you actually have to pay for all the pretty glittery toys you want at the toy store.
The Bush administration has been responsible for the largest DEBT in world history. The rest of us have to pay off America's DEBT.
By the way, this DEBT unless it is paid off, will CRIPPLE America (and is already doing so, but since Republicans don't give a damn about America, I guess that doesn't really bother you, does it?)
Since it was the richest 0.1% who benefitted the most from Georgie's spending like a drunken, well, drunkard and coke abuser, why shouldn't they pay the lion's share of the debt?
I know, I know, you brain turned itself off after the word tax. That's too bad.
When you are capable of actual thought, you can get back to me.
Comment by Here's to Misha — September 9, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
Leave it to FOX to make the truth sound like an insult. I'd love to see Maddow own this by saying, "Yesterday FOX pointed out that I'm a lesbian. And their point is? Are they suggesting something is "wrong" with being gay?" Back FOX into a corner by making them explain exactly what they find so funny/wrong/gross/etc. about being a lesbian, especially when the majority of the general population just doesn't care whether someone's straight or gay. Who knows, it might even wake up some Log Cabin Republicans. On second thought, if the last 8 years didn't wake them up….
Comment by PattyP — September 9, 2008 @ 12:57 pm
FOX GARBAGE IN - FOX GARBAGE OUT
Nuff said
Comment by SuperWaterMan — September 9, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
The view from El Paso, Texas:
Mooses and gooses
and rabbits and bears,
cry, save us from Sarah
and her hunters' ways.
No maverick she, as she claims to be,
to the eye a fair treat
yet a cold lying cheat.
So Gibson, rise up
and don't play the fool,
to your calling be true
for the red, white and blue.
McSame is a doddering old fool taking comfort in the counsel of the Book of Kings.
As a wise old fool of 74, I can somewhat sympathize with his need for warmth from a younger lady.
Comment by Jesus B. Ochoa — September 9, 2008 @ 1:13 pm
Does that mean that the networks can now bring up "closeted homosexual Shepard Smith"?
Comment by Sacanagem — September 9, 2008 @ 1:18 pm
I know a bunch of Fox News anchors personally and they're not such bad people individually but they live with blinders on. This should not be tolerated!
BTW, I saw this on the blog of Craig’s List founder, Craig Newmark, yesterday and thought it was a great concept and worth sharing:
"Hey, this is a good example of genuine grassroots democracy:
ObamaTravel.org is a platform that connects volunteers who want to travel to a swing state with financial sponsors and swing state host families. It’s sort of a political hybrid of craigslist and Team-in-Training - volunteers post profiles and solicit sponsorship from their family and friends. Sponsors can see their donations in action by following the activities of their volunteers.
… and let's remember that "community organizing" is pure grassroots democracy."
Comment by sweetal — September 9, 2008 @ 1:21 pm
If irrelevent details of someone's sexual orientations/choices/proclivities is considered worth commenting on, then let's just go all the way with those of every media personality.
What floats their boat? Does Hannity do it with lights out? Does Bill O'Reilly only get excited if the victim resists his bullying advances? Does Rush need ED med to counteract his hillbilly heroin and does he ever manage to get on top without damaging his partner's inernal organs? Exactly where do they prefer to rub their plumbing and how do they like others to use their plumbing on them? Do they masturbate? If so, how and how much? If not, have they always been such goddamned liars?
FOX uses code to try to do damage to the competition/opposition. They are a propaganda outlet and admitted as much (yet are still treated as a "news" org).
Everytime they use language as red meat for their base, it is to saddle their targets with the associated memes.
They might as well say, "Lesbian Air America host, (and all that entails)."
Comment by LanceThruster — September 9, 2008 @ 1:21 pm
JFK-HRC,
We don't have a war, we have an occupation, a dirty one, that killed many times more civilians than "enemies" (we don't know the difference half the time)
Since war is one of the very few things that gives this country a sense of unity and community, the Neocons have waged the dog in Iraq, to seize power, and stay there by instilling fear.
It is shamefull.
Comment by Fred from Oregon — September 9, 2008 @ 1:35 pm
The only good thing about FOX is The Simpsons and House.
Comment by Fred from Oregon — September 9, 2008 @ 1:37 pm
Brent,
why there was no outrage when both Kerry and Edwards pointed out that Cheney's daughter is a lesbian during the debates? What was that for? Ans: to enrage red necks in the South into staying the election home to give Dems a chance to pickup one red state. So, relax and enjoy the political season. Don't worry, we'll bring your Obama down, destroy him, make him run for Detroit mayor's office.
Comment by Misha — September 9, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
In truth I dont know or care what Shep's
preference is. While he can be a hothead,
at times he shows some professionalism
(compared to the others). This guy that
does the morning Fox News, he must be a
refugee from the Bund, LOL. Where do they
get these people? More seriously I was
put off by Barack doing a kissy-face meet
with Rupert and Ailes, between their slanders
of him. What the world needs now is a liberal
version of Fox News. A full day of Rachels
and Keiths with serious straight news in
between. Anybody see Chris worship Rudy?
Give me a break. This is the liberal? Chris
said Rudy's snarling and lowball speech at
the Republican convention was "brilliant" and
"fun". It never pays to grovel right before
one is demoted, grovel or not.
Comment by Brent — September 9, 2008 @ 1:52 pm
I thought Rachel's eyeshadow was very nice, flattering, actually.
Comment by Mary Kay — September 9, 2008 @ 1:59 pm
We are talking about the party of sluts and child-molesters when we mention the phalange.
Toilet stalls, assaults on congressional pages, a soon-to-be-outed lard-assed talk show host, their presidential candidate abandoning his wife for a bar-hopping predator, the chief culprit in the election theft of '00 beginning a disgusting affair soon after arriving in DC, and a family values Senator from the Rockies engaging in multiple sexual trysts while in Washington.
The list is huge and it is typical of the fascists.
Why be surprised by their hypocrisy?
Comment by rightistrash — September 9, 2008 @ 2:05 pm
Brent you are spot on. It's been obvious to me for a while now that Chris bows to the right. And what did it get him? Demoted!!! Right at this moment he is trying to figure out how to get back in their ;good' graces. He should just call up Kristol, the Republican poster boy. He knows no shame.
Comment by Yvonne — September 9, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
To: Yvonne & Anyone who is having a bad day today, bad week, bad year, bad life…
I invite you to a world of sanity, fairness, freedom, and a Great American. Leave your sticky-views behind. Work towards authenticating yourself, and clear the path for those that are less fortunate. Join th erepublican political party that believes in teaching a person to fish, so they can feed themselves for the rest of their lives. A party that cares about the helpless and does not profit from them. No depending on false hopes.
Yvonne, you may come kicking and screaming like a new born goat, but, I promise that you'll never look back. Just come over and take a peak, live like a Republican, think like a Republican for two weeks. Ah ! The air is fresher and cleaner.
Vote: McCain/Palin ticket.
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 9, 2008 @ 2:21 pm
#27 Fred from Oregan
I saw this country unify in the middle of the streets of NYC in the middle of the worst day in america. The wars came later.
Nit-picking on War, occupations, whatever — a conversation about gays is so petty when people are suffering. Who gives a hoot.
Last I looked there are no gays running for Prez or VP…
This is a game, the same game that the Obama camp played when they accused the Clintons of being racists. So transparent. Don't you see you are being manipulated??? Now Fox is homophobic?? Not.
The working public, the responsible voters, the young an impressionable, the easily swayed, are vulnerable. They can't see the road when people keep muddying up the windshield.
Folks, that's the game. Distraction. Obama is in trouble so this week the Obamaites will sling accusations that Fox is anti-gay.
Silly-season again. ( Borrowed a phrase from Barak)
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 9, 2008 @ 2:41 pm
Well, here's what I think, for all it's worth.
If McLame / Screechy Beatch win in November, it will be the ULTIMATE downfall of the Republican party. I mean, IMAGINE what 4 years of that Circus Act will show the American public.
They're shooting themselves in the foot with this one. The decline of the GOP is now occuring, even if they win. The next generation isn't a stupid as this one. They'll see right through the GOP for what they really are.
Comment by AFP — September 9, 2008 @ 2:45 pm
Yeah..so, Bill O'Reilly is a sex pervert…he had to "buy" his way out of that mess…Hannity is crazier than a sh*t house rat..but guess its okay because they are hetero-sexual…so far…
Comment by chabuka — September 9, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
Can you tell us more of what was said on Fox News?
Comment by Eric Jaffa — September 9, 2008 @ 3:15 pm
Will Fox henceforth introduce Shephard Smith as their homosexual talk show host?
Comment by hex — September 9, 2008 @ 3:24 pm
Screw it. I'll say it. Jack Kemp is the guy the above poster was referring to. He's one of the many high ranking or former high ranking Republicans who are known homosexuals. They hate themselves, therefor they have to hate everyone else as well.
Comment by Mikal — September 9, 2008 @ 3:27 pm
I didnt see that but then I wouldnt watch FOX news if it were the only news channel on air.
But FOX marches to their own drum beat and the only ones who would watch those creepy fools on FOX are other creepy fools. Maybe they love the sensationism of it all and get off on it. Who knows but they should have their license pulled for many reasons including dirtying up the air waves with their sick ideals.
Remember…..they say those who accuse and talk the loudest are the ones doing the same thing and hope to get the attention off them and on their target.
Comment by Misty — September 9, 2008 @ 3:41 pm
Rachael is a very, very, very intelligent person that does research and can verify everything she says. Not like Fox side show of no news just opinion of very hateful people. You will soon learn that the TRUE Christians know GOD created us all equal. Thanks, From an old 74 yr. old WHITE WOMAN. ZLD
Comment by Zo Daniels — September 9, 2008 @ 3:49 pm
The bottom line of the bottom line is that
what Fox did this morning was sick, demento,
makes a mockery of their claim to be a real
news organization. Poor Chris, he grovels
to Rudy while the papers are prepared for his
demotion. What Rudy said in his speech was
awful, a real hatchet speech, nasty, ugly,
anger-filled and for Chris to heap praise on
it, was pathetic. I laugh when Republicans
use Chris as an example of a Democrat. He is
a politician on air, maneuvering for position.
And BTW I dont have much use for the Fox
Democrats either. After a few of those Fox
checks are deposited in their bank accounts,
they sound like castrated former Democrats
begging for approval from the right.
Comment by Brent — September 9, 2008 @ 4:04 pm
To 40 Mikal.
I really don't think anyone on this entire blog really appreciates your news on the politiican.
We are just a little too sophisticated to skip a beat on that. Who cares?
This is the problem with the internet, we just can avoid viscious people like you.
Now go away.
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 9, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
"why there was no outrage when both Kerry and Edwards pointed out that Cheney's daughter is a lesbian during the debates?"
There was TONS of right wing outrage led by Dick and Lynn Cheney despite the fact that Mary is very out, hat worked for Coors beer as a "gay and lesbian outreach coordinator" and had popped out a baby boy with her long term partner, Heather Poe.
"Join th erepublican political party that believes in teaching a person to fish, so they can feed themselves for the rest of their lives."
Except the fish are poisoned because of industrial pollution.
Maybe Caribou Barbie and her Xtian Taliban Church can "Pray the Gay Out" of Rachel Maddow.
Maybe they can get Ellen and her wife, Portia, and Melissa Etheridge and her wife, Tammy Lynn too.
Comment by Laura W — September 9, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
Who really cares? Her ratings will have to be subsidized by pulling ad revenues from other shows. Look for this line up to be gone by spring. It's televised insanity as evidenced by Olbermann. His ratings are so low you can't scrape them off the newsroom floor.
Comment by Robert Rosencrans — September 9, 2008 @ 4:34 pm
You really have to hand it to FOX for sheer chutzpah,sputtering on about how partisan and biased MSNBC is.FOX has utterly destroyed,nay DEFILED honest political debate in America.Olbermann isn't even a Liberal(look it up)-he's a strident critic of the worst government in American history,and plays a vital role in combating right wing lies and blatant bigotry as evidenced by this so called media critics disgusting behavior.
Comment by scott — September 9, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
I am shamed of America.
Comment by Harley — September 9, 2008 @ 6:08 pm
I just wrote FOX new's Roger Ailes and the FCC Officials and FCC Complaints. I am done accepting the junior high school slam book nature that the MSM calls news. I have asked that they be required to put up a disclaimer that their "news" shows are infotainment and do not have any journalistic merit.
Rachel Maddow is one of the best educated, courageous, and most delightful anchor to emerge from the cesspool of television's right wing fanaticism.
The very wrong right must be getting scared.
Pssst…Do Something.
Comment by revday — September 9, 2008 @ 6:18 pm
"I think you may forget how relentless the MSNBC Lefties were with outted politicians"
Now that you've gone over to the dark side use "Leftists" it's more hateful and brings S.American rebels to mind.As for the "outed politicians" the Lefties" were reacting to the mind numbing hypocrisy of Larry Craig.I won't get into all the deeply dumb details.Look it up.See, the difference is that Mr Media Critic wasn't reacting to anything other than his own percolating hatred of *gulp* "Lesbians".
Comment by scott — September 9, 2008 @ 6:30 pm
Come on, Robert, Keith's ratings happen to
be very strong. Even by standards of a
comment section of a pundit blog, you gotta
tell the truth. Too much lying in American
politics today. Dont make things up. Be
honest. Be accurate. Have respect for facts.
Come on, Robert, you gotta do better than that.
My column in the paper today was about the
bailout, but my alternative column would have
been about lying in politics. Maybe next
week. But Robert, I think much less of you,
when you say things that are simply untrue.
That is not opinion. Dont try to make up your
own facts. Gotta be honest.
Comment by Brent — September 9, 2008 @ 6:31 pm
i think that is so weird when they know lindsay graham (mccains bff) is so gay and charlie crist and so many others - their closet will be open soon i hope.
Comment by karin — September 9, 2008 @ 6:41 pm
Thanks for posting those links. I encourage everyone to complain about CNN and MSNBC.
Comment by Robert Rosencrans — September 9, 2008 @ 6:42 pm
OT, but.. defend this..
Barack Obama says the John McCain-Sarah Palin policies don’t represent change, they’re “just calling the same thing something different.”
“You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,” Obama said during a town-hall style event here Tuesday night.
Politics of change…
Obama in his full display of class..
Comment by Jon Pemberton — September 9, 2008 @ 7:14 pm
Tell me again why we're not supposed to talk about Sarah Palin's little slut daughter?
Comment by Subroutine — September 9, 2008 @ 7:35 pm
Brent,
Remember you are responsible for comment #55, per your own words about a month ago.
Comment by Jon Pemberton — September 9, 2008 @ 8:05 pm
The AP has reported that Sarah Palin collected in excess of $17,000.00 in per diem while living at home and in excess of $43,000.00 for family travel expenses.
Apparently she spent in excess of 300 days at home instead of at the capitol. That would mean she's been in her office less than half the time she's been in office.
her defense so far seems to consist of the statement that her predecessor Frank Murkowski spent hundreds of thousands more.
Bet he's gonna love bein fingered by her.
You guys are a scream!
Comment by pghremodeler — September 9, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
#54 "but.. defend this.."
You're a little late in your outrage, Jon, aren't you??
"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." –John McCain, speaking of Hillary Clinton's healthcare plan, Oct. 11, 2007
"Never get into a wrestling match with a pig. You both get dirty — and the pig likes it." –John McCain, speaking about opponent Mitt Romney, Dec. 29, 2007
Politics of change.
McCain in his full display of class.
Comment by Melissa — September 9, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
To paraphrase Obama, "An Air America lesbian with a lipstick is still a lesbian"
Comment by Misha — September 9, 2008 @ 8:44 pm
JFK-HRC wrote "I saw this country unify in the middle of the streets of NYC in the middle of the worst day in america. The wars came later…"
Yes, the Reagan-era budget cuts (to buy the electorate with tax cuts) are directly responsible for that day.
Intelligence services were slashed in half. A small band of maybe a few hundred (or a few dozen at the core) managed to strike at the symbol of western economic power and kill a lot of people because there weren't enough proverbial cops on the beat.
Comment by Fred from Oregon — September 9, 2008 @ 9:11 pm
Sadly a hundreds of thousands of innocent moslem civilians paid the price for 9/11 while the culprits got away with it.
We made many times as many enemies since trying to swat the fly with the sledge hammer.
Great policy? Country united?
Comment by Fred from Oregon — September 9, 2008 @ 9:13 pm
Brent, it would be great if there really was a standard for not making things up, even in the comments section of a pundit's blog.
What has kept me posting comments on this blog since it only Rosencrans, Igor and me, is to try to balance the continuing disregard for the truth by Rosencrans and Igor.
I don't have any illusions about them suddenly changing their continuing disnformation campaign.
After all, we are fighting against the team that lied us into the invasion of Iraq at a cost of over 1,000,000 Iraqi deaths and 4155 of our fellow citizens.
What's a little lie about Obama being a Muslim or Palin selling the jet on EBay or about Olbermann's ratings?
If your prepared to stand behind the Big Lie, the little ones are probably easy.
Comment by smilinjack — September 9, 2008 @ 9:18 pm
Subroutine, please, talk about her, get all your comrades in arms to talk about her, raise hell about her, make her the focal point of the campaign. It's very important for you to use precisely the term you used to describe her because women just LOVE that term. As you can see, talking about her produced great results for the Obama campaign, especially as far as women's votes are concerned, so to win Barack just needs more of the same.
Comment by Igor R. — September 9, 2008 @ 9:21 pm
54. Yea, you can put lipstick on a pit bull too, but it is still an inbred pedigree that will turn on you. LOL
Comment by Fred from Oregon — September 9, 2008 @ 9:26 pm
When Olbermann was fired by Fox News, Robert Murdoch stated flatly, "He's crazy." Apparently some of his supporters gloss over the fact his ratings rarely get out of the basement. That's not a lie. That's a fact. Here's a link where you can review his ratings. Also, both Olbermann and O'Reilly had interviews with Obama. O'Reilly got 4.9 million viewers while Olberman got 1.9 million, almost double his normal viewership. Anyway, Olbermann has Attention Deficit Disorder because he thinks the world is interested in his personal one dimensional hatred of Bush. Olbermann, your station owners should wake up. You and Chris Matthews, another liberal pile of sludge in the media sewer pipe, are both high fiving each other on the way to the bottom. By the way, read some of the comments below the ratings. Are all those people lying Brent? It occurs to me that only a pyschopath would label someone a liar simply for disagreeing with them. Especially when the facts are on their side.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/05/01/oreilly-vs-olbermann-through-wednesday-april-30/3581
Comment by Robert Rosencrans — September 9, 2008 @ 9:32 pm
BTw the latest Sarah Palin, it turns out
she was billing the taxpayers of Alaska
for per diem allowances while she was in
her own home! This is amazing, no shame,
no maverick, no reformer this person. Time
to add up her take. If I did this to a
client, they'd call the sheriff. Nice work
if you can get it. Meanwhile both ABC and
NBC network news tonite reported various
matters in "the Sarah Palin story" that
were not exactly accurate. Her bogus position
on earmarks which she always supported. How
she hired the big pork lobby firm. How she
supported the bridge to nowhere. Starting
to finally be reported. I did two radio shows
tonite, Cliff Kelly in Chicago and Richard
Greene on Air America and one point I raised
is that folks who want to have an impact can
write letters to the editor and call local
TV news bureaus putting out the word about
the truth to reach the people.
Comment by Brent — September 9, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
Today, the Chicago thug said this:
"You can put lipstick on a pig. "It's still a pig."
"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."
Ah, the rage, the rage…you see the Messiah was inconvenienced for 19 months and it all could be for nothing. And out of control Messiah is interesting to watch. Was he talking about THE WOMAN stinking or THE WRINKLED OLD MAN. Whatever did you mean, Black Jesus's gift to Muslims, ha?
Comment by Igor R. — September 9, 2008 @ 10:17 pm
[...] Posted by Rick on September 9, 2008 Never mind the fact that I think very highly of Rachel Maddow and think she is incredibly insightful and has a razor sharp wit. The fact of the matter is that the Fox News personality attacking Maddow for being a lesbian is a disgusting person who has no business being on America's airwaves, let alone a "news" show. But what a surprise… Faux news found this acceptable. Thus, a "Moron of the Moment" nod to both Fox Noise and Tim Graham. Fox News Attacks ‘Lesbian Air America Host’ Brent Budowsky [...]
Pingback by A descpicable Momo « One Little Victory — September 10, 2008 @ 12:17 am
Rachel Maddow is openly and proudly lesbian, she is an Air America host, and her show on MSNBC does, in fact, move the network further to the left. So nothing Tim Graham said in his segment with Fox News was factually inaccurate or even much of a revelation, and although his derogatory inflection of the word "lesbian" was boorish and objectionable, there was nothing in the segment that even remotely qualified as hate speech. (The FoxNews personnel, let's note, chose not to follow up on Graham's use of the word "lesbian." That's about as close as a network anchor can come to disapproval without violating protocol.)
Budowsky's initial post is fundamentally misleading, and would probably flunk Journalism 101.
Comment by Tim Hulsey — September 10, 2008 @ 12:28 am
Fox News is trying to marginalize Rachel Maddow and eventually force her off the air. They've done this stuff so many times before.
Comment by Jason — September 10, 2008 @ 4:31 am
When there is nothing they can objectively report then they fall back to attack mode.
Seems someone should bring up what a hypocrite McCain is. Doesn't he espouse family values? Then what about his values? How he came back from Vietnam, found his wife disfigured from an auto accident, started running around on her, had adulterous relationship with Cindy, divorced his wife and married Cindy less than a month later, etc, etc. How could anyone vote for a war mongering womanizer????
Comment by ken — September 10, 2008 @ 5:44 am
Get a life Brent. You Libs are always whining when you are served the same dish you hand out. You clowns have been reading your own left wing drivel for so long that you are unable to stomach objectivity when it hits you in the face. You and your Air America Nobodies are a total joke.
Comment by Craig — September 10, 2008 @ 6:28 am
Brent,
You seem to think by using the terms lies and Swift Boat are synonomous. They are actually antonyms. Swift Boats for Truth brought out the truth about John Kerry as he tried to rewrite his past. You liberals can never address the message only attack the messenger.
Comment by Jim — September 10, 2008 @ 7:43 am
There's nothing wrong with being a lesbian. Two of 'em in bed is even better.
Comment by Nobama — September 10, 2008 @ 8:04 am
As barry might say, it's only lipstick on a pig. Relax!
Comment by Joe Weeditz — September 10, 2008 @ 8:06 am
Brent,
I started to read your article and was originally offended by Fox News. As I read on I realized you are a typically biased liberal writer who, in trying to make a point you expanded your critisism beyond the point of credibility. Stay on topic and you might be abel to get your point across.
Comment by Jim — September 10, 2008 @ 8:15 am
http://cityfile.com/profiles/shepard-smith
Comment by Joe Blow — September 10, 2008 @ 8:24 am
All Fox News said was the truth. Why does the left always get upset when the truth is exposed?
Comment by Ed — September 10, 2008 @ 9:00 am
Rachel is very intelligent, however,
that does not mean she has wisdom.
She continually bashes President Bush and all things Republican since she has been on msnbc. She has chosen
Oberman as a media soulmate….not a very wise choice!
Comment by Dolly Marcos — September 10, 2008 @ 9:42 am
First of all, Jim, with all due respect, I
really dont care what you think. I stated
a fact in quotation marks that was a direct
quote specifying what Fox said, word for
word, accurately and with exact detail, about
Maddow. Has nothing to do with my bias, facts
are facts, and if you dont like it, good luck
to you. More interestingly all three networks
last night and the Washington Post front page
this morning listed the various lies McCain
and Palin told about Palin's record. Issue
by issue. Fact by fact. Lie by lie. Same
points I have been making for a week on this
site, others, and on talk radio. Obama made
a big mistake letting this go for ten days
without adequate truth telling and the media,
as expected, let the lies go forth without
any correction for ten days, until now. Lets
watch this play out. The fight has only
begun.
Comment by Brent — September 10, 2008 @ 9:47 am
We don't watch Fox anymore!!!!!!! Period !!!!!
Comment by NANCIANNE — September 10, 2008 @ 9:47 am
Brent: You left out the best part of her per diem allowance. It was perfectly legal. Now you're going after politicians who do things legally? That doesn't make any sense. Of course, not much liberals do does make sense.
Comment by Robert Rosencrans — September 10, 2008 @ 9:54 am
Rachel Maddow is more intelligent than almost anyone on the air today. Keith Oberman is as well. Msnbc should be ashamed of demoting them. They need not play that game!! If they keep doing what they are doing they will have the ratings. Rachel will stand up to the biggots whether it be fox or any other source. Just watch her. She can take the heat in the kitchen so those who can't better step aside!!
Comment by radpaddi — September 10, 2008 @ 9:55 am
smilinjack: Name on thing I posted that was untrue or admit you're a liar.
Comment by Robert Rosencrans — September 10, 2008 @ 9:56 am
I figured Rachel is a lesbian, my only question was whether she is an actual registered democrat or whether she was some sort of Green party being.
I stumbled upon Keith and Rachel last night quite by accident, I looked at the ratings and my guess is that the same people that can make it through Keith's show will also enjoy Rachel's show, they'll certainly notice Keith's estrogen level is higher.
Comment by Nell P. — September 10, 2008 @ 10:03 am
sorry - you are viewed by a national audience where the majority of people are family oriented and christians. homosexuals are committing a sin, yet, what they do in their personal lives should be kept private and not exposed to those around you, especially if you are in the cruel media. don't parade yourself out there looking like a man - people are not accepting of something that is wrong in the eyes of God and to view her is actually committing the sin of acceptance of her lifestyle.
Comment by sara — September 10, 2008 @ 10:31 am
Hey, have some respect for angry lesbians. They are the ones fixing our trucks in a military.
Comment by Misha — September 10, 2008 @ 10:42 am
"Put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig." Quote by Barrack Obama.
Now who was it you were saying is on the "high road"?
The hypocrisy and self righteousness of the left is unbelievable!
Comment by Jim Ross — September 10, 2008 @ 11:05 am
Right before Obama made his dumb remark about lipstick, he plagiarized a Toles cartoon text from the fifth. He and Biden are really a team. I have the cartoon and the clip side by side on my blog.
Comment by Mike K — September 10, 2008 @ 11:23 am
Notice how many of the rightist comments
here, like Fox, are obsessed with little
personal name calling. Just look at these
trite little rightest comments. I would
be curious whether any of them are paid to
post this stuff by Republicans, LOL, the
party with nothing left but negativity.
Never cease to be amazed.
Comment by Brent — September 10, 2008 @ 11:58 am
I never heard any of you brain dead liberals complain when John Edwards skipped the important stuff in his debate with Cheney and snake-like brought up Cheney's daughter's lesbianism. But what can I expect from a crowd that intends to vote for some empty suit who never changed or united or accomplished anything worthwhile?
Comment by jas — September 10, 2008 @ 12:16 pm
America is divided many ways. This sort of ugliness reflects just one of the schisms. Public displays of intolerance motivates the base of intolerants.
That's why the advice given to Obama to learn to fight back is so critical. He should not show "anger"; that's truly bad advice. But he needs to denounce intolerance, bigotry, lying, and other below-the-belt Republican tactics. We know he can take a punch; can he throw one? We know he doesn't get mad; can he get even?
Please, Bill Clinton, teach the tyro how to fight gutter tactics without getting dirty himself. That would make tomorrow's a real power lunch.
Comment by Missourian — September 10, 2008 @ 12:31 pm
90: Brent: Name calling. You claimed I lied about Olberman's ratings when in fact, you don't know the facts. If that isn't name calling, what is?
Comment by Robert Rosencrans — September 10, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
Misha,
What do you know about the military.
Most fascists flat-out refuse to serve, including, I'm just guessing, you.
And for that matter, why DON'T fascists serve?
Their hypocrisy is only exceeded by their own ugly lives.
They approve of a presidential candidate who their own messiah, GWB accused of collaborating with the enemy.
They approve of his notorius whore-hopping while condemning others(not their own though)who are RUMORED to have engaged in such activities.
Yet, I'm not surprised.
BTW, phalange, Hitler WAS wrong.
Now be good boys and go to your Klan meeting.
Can a human being get any lower?
Comment by rightistrash — September 10, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
Even without the lipstick, Tim Graham makes for a very convincing pig - with apologies to the remainder of the species.
Comment by Fred — September 10, 2008 @ 2:15 pm
It is really a shame that the posters here are consumed with hate. You live in one of the greatest countries in the world with the highest standard of living ever witnessed on earth, and you complain. You are so smug in your rightousness to come on a blog and defame and insult. I saw the FOX news story Budowsky talks about and there were no "smug laughs and happy chortles." He made that up. And, yes, Graham called her a lesbian, which is no secret, but I've heard President Bush and other called much, much worse, including the comments on this blog. Typical Liberals. Make up a lie and then take affront because you know the other haters will join in. Liberals will say, or do anything, even foster hate, to advance their corrupt causes. You can't debate issues, so you sow hate. Sad. Sad. Sad, that you live in such a great place and can find no happiness.
Comment by WSBowles — September 10, 2008 @ 2:28 pm
Wow. Did anyone ever think a tube on lipstick on a pig, on a pitbull, on a woman or on man could move so many?
Someone very smart orchastrated the Lipstick Saga:
Formula:
Lipstick joke by Sarah…
A SMART PERSON'S (nameless)brain on Lipstick… ???
Lipstick reference by Barak…
Dust up by media…
Reaction by Republicans…
Counter-reaction by Obama…
Media hype everywhere…
Free publicity…
Cute, very cute.
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 10, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
I am a homosexual man and my sister is a lesbian.
The phrase that you quoted is descriptive not demeaning.
Is she ashamed of her sexuality?
She seems to me to be very public about it!
This is a SUPER LIBERAL piece of homophobia!
Comment by Michael Sport — September 10, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
I see Barack is FINALLY starting to hit
back for real. Better late than never.
This lipstick business today is a total
fraud, and the media is finally detailing
the various falsehoods. About time Barack
started swinging. Now we will have the battle
that should have been fought long ago.
Comment by Brent — September 10, 2008 @ 4:08 pm
I am surprised at the number of right-wing posters on this site.
As usual, they remain ridiculous hypocrites. One person complains about the phony outing of Cheney's daughter, then another says that the Lesbian talk show host just happens to be the truth.
Obviously, the label for the talk show host was meant to be disparaging.
And the right wingers don't seem to get it that being a lesbian talk show host should be just another person. But to Fox News, that means she is not a rich, white, male which is their target propaganda audience… (as well as stupid poor whites)
Comment by TonyJazz — September 10, 2008 @ 4:19 pm
Brent
If McCain was up against who ever writes his speeches, he may be in a battle… but this is nursery school tricks.
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 10, 2008 @ 4:32 pm
Did Fox do this to Anderson Cooper, too?
If not, is it just lesbians they don't like?
Brent - wish you were on Richard's show more often. I love listening to you!
Comment by JaneAustin — September 10, 2008 @ 4:44 pm
Dear #98,
You have a fascinating life story!
Comment by Misha — September 10, 2008 @ 6:16 pm
'lesbian Air America host'
snip…
'You need to spend more time fighting back against the lies and smears'
What in the first statement is a lie or a smear?
Is she a lesbian? Yes
Was she an Air America host? Yes
It is YOU who are insinuating that this is something to be ashamed of.
Comment by Gabi — September 10, 2008 @ 7:08 pm
First, Rachel is a big girl and she can take care of herself. But, that comment is a cheap shot. Even in the NFL people generally avoid cheap shots until someone else cheap shots first. Rachel, feel free to take them out at the knees.
Second, that doesn't excuse FOX's hate mongering and their blatant appeal to the lowest common denominator in our society. What does it matter that Rachel is a lesbian. So what, she openly admits in her Air America bio that her partner is a woman. This isn't news.
Thirdly regardless of her sexual orientation Rachel is one hell of a journalist and a very intelligent woman. So intelligent that it's scary sometimes. Maybe that is FOX's real problem. Rachel has them on basic intelligence and intellect and the only way they can fight back is to hit below the belt.
As for Obama, he needs to fight back and fight back hard against the Republicans. McCain and Palin are taking cheap shots and it's time that Obama defend himself. Barack needs to go our for blood now that the gauntlet has been thrown down. It's a knife fight and Barack has to win. Forget the another four years of George Bush, just think of what it will be like with four years of the Republicans' two clowns.
Obama it's time to send McCain to a rest home and Palin into the wilds to eat more moose stew (it tastes like crap). The US can't afford another four years of Republican policies.
Barack, you've played rope a dope long enough. You've let McCain punch himself out. It's time to come out with a knock out combination.
Comment by Rick — September 10, 2008 @ 8:17 pm
"58 OT, but.. defend this..
…“You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,” Obama said during a town-hall style event here Tuesday night.
Politics of change…
Obama in his full display of class..
Comment by Jon Pemberton — September 9, 2008 @ 7:14 pm"
Hmmm….
"The saying is usually meant to convey putting the best possible face on a bad situation. Torie Clarke, Donald H. Rumsfeld's press secretary at the Pentagon — a Republican and a woman — named her book 'Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in the No-Spin Era by Someone Who Knows the Game.' And McCain himself used the phrase late last year to describe Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's plan for universal health care.
"'I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig,' McCain said of the plan last October as Clinton was running for the Democratic nomination."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/09/AR2008090903531.html
Meanwhile, back on 1 Feb 2007, in two separate instances, McCain used the expression again:
"It gets down to whether you support what's being done in this new strategy or you don't. You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig in my view."
Again , on NPR:
"It's all about withdrawal or not withdrawal, okay? I mean that's what it's all about. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."
McCain in his full display of class!
Shoe, have you met the other foot yet?
Comment by Jim — September 11, 2008 @ 1:10 am
Brent,
Tell us honestly. Just two short weeks ago, you praised Obama for his Presidential caliber decision of picking another Presidential material, Joe Biden. It's clear that had Obama picked Hillary, there would have been no Palin and race would have been over. No, Biden is irrelevant, nowhere to be found. Obama is afraid of his own shadow, timid, lost, first being ridiculed as celebrity, then having that celebrity status stolen as soon as Greek Temple was gone and Sarah appeared from its ashes.
Hillary is playing it very smart, not criticizing Sarah Palin, waiting for Obama to self destruct, according to master plan for 2012. Given Obama's mediocre performance in recent interviews, McCain has a good chance to score even in debates, while Sarah evaporates Biden with her natural style, openness, down to Earth profile.
Why aren't Al Gore and Bill Clinton helping Obama? The big Michelle Obama cannot even take a stage now that Sarah Palin is sucking up all the oxygen.
What next for Obama? I am very worried, Brent
Comment by Misha — September 11, 2008 @ 1:56 am
88. "Put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig." Quote by Barrack Obama.
Now who was it you were saying is on the "high road"?
The hypocrisy and self righteousness of the left is unbelievable!
Comment by Jim Ross — September 10, 2008 @ 11:05 am"
No, it's the hypocrisy and self-righteousness of the right. The right excels in this kind of manufactured outrage. I already documented McCain's use of "lipstick on a pig" three times — once in reference to Hillary Rodham Clinton, who he MUST have been calling a pig when he made the comment, right? Real high road stuff, that.
Way to play the sexism card, Republicans. It ain't gonna work.
Comment by Jim — September 11, 2008 @ 1:58 am
Word is getting around about the McCain lies
and the media is finally beginning to report
it. fYI I left a memo for one of the highest
Dems in the nation early this morning at this
person's residence, sent a similar email to
another of the highest Democrats, and am going
to a meeting this morning with a group of them.
Time to fight. Barack wants to protect our
children from sexual predators and McCain turns
it into another lie? We should break his bones
on this.
Comment by Brent — September 11, 2008 @ 6:19 am
Brent, #109
You are nuts. Are you advocating physical violence against Sen. McCain, a Presidential candidate? Do you want to talk to Secret Service after this post? It can be arranged, as they monitor threats.
Or, is it another unfortunate commonly used expression coming from Democrats?
Comment by Misha — September 11, 2008 @ 10:53 am
#108, very inappropriate comment on former prisoner of war who had all his bones broken by communists in Vietnam. You liberals are scums!
Comment by Jim P. — September 11, 2008 @ 11:16 am
Sorry, I meant comment #109 by Brent about breaking McCain's bones.
Comment by Jim P. — September 11, 2008 @ 11:17 am
"very inappropriate comment on former prisoner of war who had all his bones broken by communists in Vietnam"
You really shouldn't believe all you hear from Hannity. McCain's bones were broken in his landing, and they totalled 3 (three).
"McCain was severely injured, having broken both arms and his right leg, and
his strength in coping through his recouperation was inspiring to many of
his fellow POWs."
http://www.pownetwork.org/bios/m/m125.htm
The problem with folks like you is that you want a good story, a Rambo flick, an underdog turned bionic man plot, a superhero story where the downtrodden POW with "all of his bones broken" by the bad guys (I think McCain prefers the racial slur "gooks") swoops into DC like a caped crusader and saves the day. And damned be the facts if they get in the way of your good story.
Comment by Melissa — September 11, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
I'm sure Sarah Palin will have no problem bringing home the bacon and frying Obama up in the pan.
Comment by Robert Rosencrans — September 11, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
Brent -
I'm working, stopped to check in….
What was in your email to the top Dems…??
I am out of the loop today.
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 11, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
To the group;
We should start hitting McCain where it hurts, his supposed "honor". When he was a guest of the Hanoi Hilton he got the nickname "Songbird". He said that he was tortured but it is becoming clearer that he wasn't. He gave teh enemy inofrmation about his comrades, his unit, flight plans and the like. Here is a link to people that served with him as fellow POWs;
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
Here is one from a person that served with McCain at the Naval Academy and as a fellow POW.
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977425993&grpId=3659174697238977&nav=Groupspace
So now lets the fight begin.
Comment by Mike Coleman — September 11, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
You are not worried, Misha, and I am only a
little worried. I have all over this today
from senior Dems in Congress to presidential
campaign to some senior Hillary people, all
of whom I've been touch with today, most in
person. Counter-attack is coming. No doubt
Barack waited two weeks too long, my views
are well known by senior Democrats, but get
ready, the Empire will strike back. I am
referring to things I know, that you don't
that will soon happen. I applaud Barack
choosing Biden. I was never against his
choosing Hillary and one can make a case,
knowing what we know, it would have been
better if he did. But Biden will do just
fine and if you are counting your chickens
before they hatch, watch what happens when
they come home to roost, to mix metaphors.
I predict Palin blows. Only question is when.
Comment by Brent — September 11, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
Melissa,
No he did not have all his bones broken, by anyone.
Yes the injuries you described did happen from the ejection from his plane.
What you left out was his two years of beatings that did break his left arm again, cracked ribs, and caused many more injuries.
We do want to layout all the facts right?
Comment by Jon Pemberton — September 11, 2008 @ 3:14 pm
Brent,
Yes, I can see that by sending 30 investigators to Alaska to do some dirt digging, the Democrats are preparing a counter attack. I also applaud Barack choosing Biden, now they can do gaffes in pairs. Anyhow, today is not a day for this kind of talk.
One more thing, Brent. Can you say anything commendable about President's Bush, his national security team for their efforts in preventing another 9/11 attack for 7 years? Thank you, and God bless those who perished in 2001.
Comment by Misha — September 11, 2008 @ 3:31 pm
Brent
Nonsense.
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 11, 2008 @ 3:34 pm
Jon,
I didn't leave anything out. I corrected a liar about McCain's broken bones. What you care to embellish is your business.
Comment by Melissa — September 11, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
Melissa,
Whatever…
Comment by Jon Pemberton — September 11, 2008 @ 4:41 pm
Misha #119 says;
One more thing, Brent. Can you say anything commendable about President's Bush, his national security team for their efforts in preventing another 9/11 attack for 7 years?
Misha, you half-wit, the 9//1 terrorist attacks, and the subsequent 3,000 American deaths, happened on Bush's watch. Comprehendo?
Misha, you brainwashed neocon, what in the hell is "commendable" about that national security team? Did you forget Bush is responsible? Do we not count that one attack? No wonder you're a republican (issue-void)
Comment by Jesse T — September 11, 2008 @ 6:21 pm
Seriously, whatever? Okay. Whatever is John McCain's economic plan? Is it the same ****, different Republican proposal? You do know the plan, don't you?
Comment by Melissa — September 11, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
"whatever" I'm not going to accept you answering a question with a question.
Comment by Jon Pemberton — September 11, 2008 @ 11:03 pm
Jim Ross, Jon Pemberton, and Igor R., (together with the rest of their ilk) are such pathetic damn liars and losers, it's hard even to fathom.
From FactCheck.org (wire.factcheck.org/2008/09/10/pigs-and-pit-bulls/):
Pigs and Pit Bulls
The McCain camp has put out a Web ad painting Obama as “ready to smear.”
Palin: Do you know they say, the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.
Obama: But you know, you can put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig.
Couric: One of the great lessons of that campaign is the continued and accepted role of sexism in American life.
[Title: Ready to lead? No. Ready to smear? Yes.]
Let’s start with what the ad gets right. It does seem to be true that Republican v.p. candidate Sarah Palin wears lipstick. And it’s true that she mentioned this particular cosmetic choice at the convention, when she joked that lipstick is the only difference between a hockey mom and pit bull, as the ad shows before it goes completely off the rails. If this were a CoverGirl commercial, we’d be all set.
But it’s not; it’s a political ad. And it goes on to imply that Obama made a personal dig at Palin, calling her a “pig,” and that commentators decried his sexism for derailing the campaign. This is bunk. Let’s look at what Obama actually said at a campaign rally in Virginia:
Obama, Sept. 9: John McCain says he’s about change too. And so I guess his whole angle is, watch out, George Bush — except for economic policy, healthcare policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics, we’re really going to shake things up in Washington. That’s not change. That’s just calling some, the same thing something different. You know, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.
Here’s what the McCain campaign heard, according to ABC News’ Jake Tapper:
Tapper, Sept. 10: Asked why she was so confident Obama was “comparing” Palin to a pig, [former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift, on behalf of the McCain campaign,] said Palin was the only one of the four candidates on both parties’ tickets who wears lipstick.
“She is the only one of the four candidates for president or the only vice presidential candidate who wears lipstick,” Swift said. “I mean it seemed to me a very gendered comment.”
But, Swift added, if “as part of his apology Senator Obama wants to say no he was calling Senator McCain — who is a true hero in our country a pig — then I suppose we could wait en masse for an apology to that as well.”
For starters, Swift is ignoring the fact that “putting lipstick on a pig” is a hoary old expression of the same caliber as “building a better mousetrap” or “letting the cat out of the bag.” We did a quick Nexis search on uses of the expression before Tuesday, and found 2,290 instances dating back to 1985 (which is as far back as most Nexis news goes). Its meaning is precisely what Obama was talking about in his speech: calling the same thing something different. Context for the phrase in the last two decades ranged from health care to taxes to fashion to business to, uh, pig racing. It has tumbled from the lips of sports commissioners, librarians and company spokesmen, but it’s particularly popular with politicians. (Congressional newspaper The Hill even featured the phrase in its “Congress Speak” column.) It’s been spotted as far away as New Zealand. It’s even the title of a book by former McCain press aide Torie Clarke.
As several people (including Tapper, Marc Ambinder at The Atlantic, Ben Smith at Politico, the Obama campaign and some of our readers) have pointed out, John McCain employed the phrase in 2007, in talking about Hillary Clinton’s health care plan: “I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.” Oh, and he also said it about Iraq war strategy – if it’s really a personal smear, it’s not clear who’s wearing the lipstick in that example. Obama has used the expression before, too (also in referring to Iraq strategy). But before either McCain or Obama speculated on porcine cosmetics, members of Congress from Rick Santorum to Ted Kennedy had been talking pig lips for years.
If the McCain campaign wants to get literal, ignoring the expression’s long political pedigree, they could go whole hog (as it were) and look at what Obama actually said. He is talking about John McCain’s policies, not about his running mate. “Barack Obama on Sarah Palin”? Not at all.
And “Katie Couric on this election”? Well, it depends on what your definition of “this” is. Couric was referring to the Hillary Clinton campaign, long before Palin was tapped for v.p. Hey, remember when McCain called Clinton’s health plan “lipstick on a pig”?
*****
There are liars, there are damn liars, and then in a class by themselves, there's Jim Ross, Jon Pemberton, and Igor R.
Comment by Jim — September 11, 2008 @ 11:22 pm
Shorter Jim P. and John Pemberton: "How dare you criticize John McCain? Don't you know he was a POW?"
Even McCain realizes he's worn out the POW thing. I think he finally jumped the "noun, verb, POW" shark on that when he tried to deflect questions about forgetting whether he had 7, 8 or 12 houses. "I'll have my staff get back to you on that one… by the way, did you know I was a POW?"
He's on to a new shtick now. You might consider the same.
Comment by Jim — September 11, 2008 @ 11:26 pm
"I'm not going to accept you answering a question with a question."
Aww, Jon throws a Republican tantrum. Shocking… LOL
Comment by Melissa — September 11, 2008 @ 11:55 pm
I predict those on the left and Brent will use the truncated "God" quote from Palin's interview. And, they will portray that the "Bush Doctrine" means a single thing, which it does not.
Comment by Jon Pemberton — September 12, 2008 @ 12:09 am
Jessy T, (moron in training)
The 9/11 attack took nearly 2 years of planning, most of it while Bill Clinton was bombing Yugoslavia to let Muslims have their own little state in Europe. While 9/11 took place under Bush, in the last 7 years our military, FBI, CIA and other security agencies neutralized hundreds, perhaps thousands of potential attacks, yet all Democrats can talk about is "it happened on his watch". Elect Obama, let him relax security, put FBI and CIA on a short leash to protect the rights of his "brothers" and let's see what happens.
Comment by Misha — September 12, 2008 @ 2:33 am
To Jim 126, 127
Your tone is curioulsly, Olbermanesque.
Hi Keith.
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 12, 2008 @ 1:47 pm
Melissa the empath can read my emotion in text. LOL
Here let me clue you in, it was a sympathetic comment as I feel sorry for you and your closed mind.
Comment by Jon Pemberton — September 12, 2008 @ 3:56 pm
#132
Didn't I ask you to tell me McCain's economic plan? That's not demonstrating a closed mind at all. Your refusal to answer what should be a basic question appears to indicate one of the following:
1) Your candidate has no plan.
OR
2) You blindly support someone whose plans you don't know.
Hmmmm. Neither one of those look good for you. Better let charity begin at home, Jon.
Comment by Melissa — September 12, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Didn't I ask you to tell me McCain's economic plan?
Yes you said that in answering a question I had about Obama's. Answering a question with a question. Round and round we go.
I'll pray for you..
Comment by Jon Pemberton — September 12, 2008 @ 9:10 pm
You're welcome to pray, Jon, if it makes you feel like you're doing something productive. We each find our own niche in life, no matter how ironic it may seem to others.
Comment by Melissa — September 13, 2008 @ 12:12 am
"131. To Jim 126, 127
Your tone is curioulsly, Olbermanesque.
Hi Keith.
Comment by JFK-HRC"
Why, thank you! I'm not Keith, of course, but thanks for the compliment.
I notice you have nothing to say about the nonpartisan FactCheck.org's smackdown of the Rove-Schmidt-McCain-Palin "Mommy! Barack Called Me A Pig!" shtick. Or about the fact that even McCain has given up on the "How dare you mention how many houses I have, or how ignorant I am about the economy? Don't you know I was a POW?" shtick.
Thanks for the compliment anyway.
Comment by Jim — September 13, 2008 @ 11:34 pm
#136 Jim
Oh there are two nuts out there? Just kidding.
Honestly, you should think about thinking objectively. Take you democratic wig off and let the air hit the scalp…
McCain offers you the privilegde of living in a country he will lead with experience, and thoughtfulness. He is not about getting his name in the history books.
Comment by JFK-HRC — September 23, 2008 @ 7:07 pm